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Really extremely confined engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had actually currently figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek blog post, that I really did not explain ... my poor In reply to spitfirebill: I added that factor since when I had to discover a substitute 4.9 for my F150, I needed to go via every one in every junkyard in South Jersey to discover one that wasn't sludged up truly severely.
Bernie: Which is a far better van, while we're mosting likely to speak about a couple of problems of these vans, yet I I'm plainly not mosting likely to come out and state one is much better than the various other. If that's what you're looking for, you'll have to wait. Mark: So what are some of the distinctions between these 2 brands? Bernie: Well, they're essentially the very same lorry.
Mark: So, well, let's start with engines after that. Allow's speak regarding engine and in fact simply to define that the design years, we're going to start from 2000 and up, you know, I suggest, these vans have been around for a lengthy time.
And, you recognize, for a variation of a Chevy van has actually been around since, you recognize, around that time also. We're not going to obtain back right into, right into the earlier stuff. Because 2000, I suggest, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s. V8s are much more prominent and I wouldn't really advise a V6 engine.
There's a whole lot of concerns with these engines. In the earlier 2000 trigger plugs with strike to these engines, since they really did not have adequate threading in the stimulate plug, which caused troubles.
If you're acquiring anything from probably 08 and newer, you're not going to have that kind of trigger plug concerns. Other locations though, with the Fords that we see, consumption manifolds will leak, they'll establish coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold normally you need to change the entire thing.
And there's some issues, the Ford engine I have to state in their favour, due to the fact that I'm speaking about issues, it's a much more sophisticated engine. Expenses camera, so you're getting even more power and efficiency out of the engine than you would certainly on a Chevy, which is a simpler style with press poles.
They're simply actually pretty great, sturdy, strong engines. You know, being a van, certainly, you know, doing any service on them is a lot more challenging due to the fact that you've reached remove that cover and enter servicing in unusual methods. Things like spark plugs last a horrible long time, so they don't require to be changed very frequently.
Mark: Can you buy these vans with diesel engines? Bernie: You can and we do service a few of them. I can't consider if we've ever before done a Chevy, yet Chevy, they're available from 2006 to 16 with a Duramax diesel. The Fords have had diesels in them for a very long time, like means back prior to the 2000 design year.
You recognize, that's still offered. If you're a say, I do not recognize, I'm simply going to state a plumbing and you've obtained like a great deal of heavyweight inside your van and you're pulling a trailer behind it, that would certainly be a really good use of having a diesel powered van.
In all fairness, it feels like the diesels are, they seem to have much less issues in vans than they carry out in the vehicles. Most likely since they aren't functioned so hard, yet when things happen, they're truly expensive to fix. We have actually got a great deal of videos and information about diesels, particularly the Fords.
You truly need to assume twice about obtaining a diesel in a van. That's my suggestion. Mark: Yeah, so in shape for function, make sure that you're suitable the engine that you're purchasing for the objective that you're endeavouring to satisfy. Bernie: Yeah, exactly. And I will certainly claim, Chevy is practically limited to V8 engines, but Ford has a V 10 engine also, which is an impressive gas guzzling engine.
However if you're, and once more, we're just speaking about kind of a straight, normal freight van right here. The diesel absolutely isn't the very best choice. Check out your purpose, your usage, exactly how much weight you're transporting and that'll assist you decide. Mark: What about the transmission et cetera of the drive train? Bernie: They're pretty much equivalent.
One point that we have not spoken about here is what sort of van. These vans are, and it depends upon what design, they're readily available ever from half ton to one ton framework and really some of the cutaway vans are really also a lot more durable, like, you know, 450s and 550s for claim the Fords.
Bernie: You understand, I'm going to provide the edge to Ford on this one. And the factor for Ford is that it's a little easier.
There's much less guiding linkage involved in a Chevy. Do Chevy's, but it appears, and the Chevy's most likely last a bit longer than the Fords, however the, you know, the steering linkage is a lot less complex, so there's less parts and much less items to use out.
The ride in a Ford is probably a bit extra vehicle like but I don't know if you 'd really ever before actually observed a difference in between the two. It appears like their components are a little tougher on the Ford than the Chevy.
Somehow, they appear to last for one brake work. And after that a whole lot of times we take the brakes off and claim, Oh, the dirt boots torn, therefore the caliper needs to be changed. I think on a Ford and you can anticipate to invest a little bit even more money on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm going to swerve back before the 2000 design years, there were some Chevy vans that had truly bad doors. I mean, the sliding doors were crap, you recognize, truly badly constructed. As an issue of fact, I would claim that if you are also taking a look at something older, it seems like Chevy and GMC vans really and their trucks in general actually took a jump forward in high quality around the 2000 design year, since there was a lot of stuff where the brakes as an example would not last very long whatsoever.
If we're looking at the 2000 newer, I indicate, I would certainly state they're both most likely rather much matching in high quality, fit and finish, you know, some of the guest vans, of course we'll have nicer appointments than the freight vans. However I can not say that of them attracts attention to me a bit greater than the other.
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